Bientot 10 GW de solaire PV en Gréce ?

[energy_isere]

Je tombe seulement maintenant sur un projet d' installer 10 GW de solaire PV en Gréce (en plusieurs parcs).
Cela s' apelle projet HELIOS.

article Enerzine du jour : http://www.enerzine.com/1/13768+la-grec ... lios+.html

La Grèce joue son va-tout avec le méga-projet solaire Helios
Günther Oettinger, le Commissaire européen à l'Energie a demandé mardi à la Grèce de mettre tout en oeuvre pour assurer l'avancement du mégaprojet de production d'énergie photovoltaïque, Hélios.
Le projet Helios prévoit l'installation de vastes étendues de panneaux photovoltaïques - jusqu'à 20.000 ha, pour un financement global estimé à 20 milliards d'euros.

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il y avait un article dans Bloomberg déjà le 07 Octobre 2011.

Greece Expects $27 Billion Solar Plan to Advance by Year-End

Greece’s Energy Minister George Papaconstantinou said he expects an agreement by the end of the year that will advance a 20 billion-euro ($27 billion) solar power project, part of an initiative to boost the economy.

Papaconstantinou said he plans to sign a pact with European Union officials and renewable energy companies that will help deliver Project Helios, named after the Greek god of the sun, which envisions luring foreign investors to install as many as 10 gigawatts of solar panels in Greece.

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Last month, Greece said it would put three solar projects worth 1 billion euros on a fast track for approval. They include the 200-megawatt Kozani plant, to be developed by Public Power Corp. SA, a 131-megawatt plant by Solar Cells Hellas Group and Silcio SA’s 127-megawatts project.

Greece may add as much as 498 megawatts of solar capacity this year, more than three times the level in 2010, according to estimates from New Energy Finance. More than 200 megawatts were installed through August, according to the Hellenic Association of Photovoltaic Cos., an industry lobby. Germany, the world’s biggest market, installed 7,400 megawatts in 2010.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-0 ... r-end.html

Mais je vois pas bien comment ils pourraient financer ca dans leur contexte de crise.

[energy_isere]

Pour le financement les Grecs ont conclu un accord avec Guggenheim Partners aux USA pour superviser la partie financiére.

La premiére étape du projet monterait à 2 GW.

Greece Tasks U.S. Firm to Oversee $26 Billion Solar Project

March 6, 2012

ATHENS – Depending on an ambitious $26 billion plan called the Helios Project to harness the power of the sun that shines on Greece as much as 300 days a year, the Greek government has appointed the New York-Chicago firm of Guggenheim Partners to act as a financial advisor to help boost income from renewable energy during a long-lasting economic crisis. Guggenheim Partners will work alongside National Bank of Greece on the financing, structuring and staged deployment of the Helios solar project, the American financial services company said today in a statement sent by e-mail. Named after the ancient god of the sun, Helios is a project that aims to produce and export as much as 10 gigawatts of solar power by 2020. Greece aims to use the project’s revenues to reduce government debt by as much as 15 billion euros ($19.8 billion.)

Helios will start with an initial target capacity of 2 gigawatts. As the grid develops, more partners will be brought in to develop the project, according to the statement. “Helios is more than an innovative energy solution,” Todd Boehly, President of Guggenheim Partners said. Under the plan, electricity generated in Greece would be exported to northern Europe – boosting the European solar sector and potentially creating thousands of jobs in the beleaguered Mediterranean state.
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http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/03 ... r-project/

On notera que 20 milliards € pour 10 GW ca fait seulement 2000 € par KWc installé, ce qui est peu par rapport aux projets qu' on voit s'installer en ce moment début 2012 en Europe.

Panneaux Chinois ?

[energy_isere]

Tous ces fabuleux projets se sont englués dans la crise Grecque .........

[Remundo]

j'avais dit il y a bien longtemps, que plutôt que de ferrailler dans des intérêts bancaires sans fin, il serait pertinent que les pays européens se fassent octroyer des "concessions" pour y implanter des projets EnR en Grèce. La Grèce a un potentiel solaire remarquable.

Des projets EnR et plus généralement des projets industriels, agricoles...

De tels projets permettent d'employer les populations locales, et de dégager des revenus avec lesquelles les dettes se payent, plutôt que de jouer à l'exponentielle d'endettement bancaire, la cravate bien vissée au cou (coût ?) en pétant dans un slip en soie...

[sceptique]

j'avais dit il y a bien longtemps, que plutôt que de ferrailler dans des intérêts bancaires sans fin, il serait pertinent que les pays européens se fassent octroyer des "concessions" pour y implanter des projets EnR en Grèce. La Grèce a un potentiel solaire remarquable.
Des projets EnR et plus généralement des projets industriels, agricoles...
De tels projets permettent d'employer les populations locales, et de dégager des revenus avec lesquelles les dettes se payent, plutôt que de jouer à l'exponentielle d'endettement bancaire, la cravate bien vissée au cou (coût ?) en pétant dans un slip en soie...

Mais les entreprises privées n'investissent pas dans un climat d'insécurité ! Par exemple, pour investir il faut acheter du matériel à l'étranger, payé en devises.

[Remundo]

l'investissement est par essence quelque chose de non sécurisé.

Par contre ce type d'investissements force les partenaires à une certaine confiance...

Les ronds-de-cuir et autres cuistres de la Goldmansachs, je ne suis pas sûr qu'ils font monter la "sécurité" dans les relations gréco-Européennes.

[sceptique]

Par contre ce type d'investissements force les partenaires à une certaine confiance...

Et, justement, les grecs n'inspirent plus confiance !

[Jeuf]

Petite remise à jour de ce fil. à ce jour, suivant electricity maps, la puissance PV en Grèce est de 5,1GW.

[energy_isere]

Petite remise à jour de ce fil. à ce jour, suivant electricity maps, la puissance PV en Grèce est de 5,1GW.

avec lequel ils ont fait 2.7 GW le 1 janvier 2024 à 12h00.
https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/p ... ?l=fr&c=GR

[energy_isere]

Greece’s 2023 PV additions hit 1.59 GW
Greece installed 1.59 GW of solar in 2023, bringing the country’s cumulative PV capacity to 7.1 GW by the end of December.

MARCH 28, 2024 ILIAS TSAGAS

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https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/03/28/ ... t-1-59-gw/

[energy_isere]

Greece to Provide $1.1B in State Aid for Two Solar, Energy Storage Projects

by Jov Onsat|Rigzone Staff | Monday, April 08, 2024

The Greek government has received clearance from the European Commission for EUR 1 billion ($1.1 billion) in state support for two solar photovoltaic farms with a combined capacity of 813 megawatts (MW).

The Faethon Project will have two units with a capacity of 252 MW each. To be built with molten-salt thermal storage units and an extra-high voltage substation, the project is planned to supply electricity during the day and store any surplus for use during times of peak consumption.

Meanwhile the Seli Project is a 309 MW solar power generation facility with a lithium-ion battery energy storage system, according to a news release by the Commission announcing the granting of approval under European Union state aid rules.

“The storage units in both projects will help decouple electricity dispatch from production, thereby mitigating the intermittent nature of solar power and enhancing the stability of the Greek electricity grid”, the Commission said.

Expected to be completed by mid-2025, the projects will raise the share of net renewable energy in the Mediterranean country’s electricity mix by about 1.2 terawatt hours, or 2.1 percent of Greece’s total power production in 2020, the Commission said.

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https://www.rigzone.com/news/greece_to_ ... 2-article/

[Jeuf]

Et pourquoi 10GW d'ailleurs? La Grèce consomme au plus 10 GW à la pointe de la clim.
6GW en dehors de forte chaleur
Il y a aussi de l'éolien, de l'hydro. Pas forcément de capacité de stockage.
10GW de solaire, ça fait beaucoup dans ce contexte, il me semble.

Enfin, le déploiement du PV va très vite, les conditions sont favorable, les émissions de CO2/kWh ont été divisées par 2 en 8 ans
https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/GR
https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/p ... &year=2023

[energy_isere]

Pas forcément de capacité de stockage.

ils feront comme les autres, augmentation par batteries stationnaires.
et puis production d'H2 par electrolyse au pointes de production. Ca prendra 15 ans s'il le faut.

[energy_isere]

Work underway on Lightsource bp’s 560 MW solar project in Greece
Lightsource bp has announced its joint venture company Ameresco Sunel Energy SA as the EPC contractor and O&M provider for its 560 MW solar project in mainland Greece. The project has been billed as one of Europe’s largest solar sites.

July 26, 2024 Patrick Jowett

Lightsource bp has selected Ameresco Sunel Energy SA, a joint venture company between US-based cleantech integrator Ameresco Inc and Greek developer Sunel Group, to support the construction of its 560 MW solar project, located in the regions of Larissa and Fthiodia in central Greece.

Earlier this week, it was announced the company would be both the EPC and O&M provider for the Enipeas project. Financing for the project, which comes in part from the European Union's NextGenerationEU fund, was announced in April.

The project features two clusters, Skopia, a 400 MW southern cluster and Kalithea, a 160 MW northern cluster. Together, the sites will feature 970,000 solar modules and boast a combined capacity that makes it one of Europe’s largest solar projects.

Upon completion, which is expected within the next 18 to 24 months, the project is expected to generate 0.90 TWh of electricity annually, powering the equivalent of 225,000 households and avoiding CO2 emissions by 379,000 tonnes per year.

“The 560 MWp Enipeas project contributes substantially to create a more sustainable future for Greece as it will provide affordable, secure, and cleaner energy and will support the country’s decarbonization goals and energy independence,” said Natalia Paraskevopoulou, Lightsource bp’s Head of Country for Greece. “Additionally, it will contribute to boosting the local economy. The presence of workers and contractors will drive demand for housing, groceries, and other local services, generating additional income for local businesses and entrepreneurs.”

Greece installed 1.59 GW of solar in 2023, bringing the country's cumulative capacity to over 7 GW by the end of the year.

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/07/26/ ... in-greece/

à ce rythme la la Grèce aura ses 10 GW de solaire PV à l'été 2026.

solaire PV avec lequel ils ont fait 5.8 GW ce 27 juillet 2024 à 13h00.
https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/p ... ?l=fr&c=GR

[energy_isere]

Pas forcément de capacité de stockage.

ils feront comme les autres, augmentation par batteries stationnaires.
et puis ........

et voila c'est d'actualité :

Curtailment, Greece needs 7 GW of energy storage by 2030 to avoid photovoltaic cuts

July 27, 2024 evwind

Up to 20% of renewable electricity production is expected to be curtailed by 2030 in Greece if no new investments are made in energy storage.
Greece is faced with ever-increasing curtailments of renewable energy production. Based on expectations from the revised National Energy and Climate Plan (NECP), an attempt will be made to deal with the issue by encouraging investment in storage.

Curtailments are projected to reach 5% of green energy production by the end of 2024 and increase further to 10% in the following year, according to participants at a recent webinar organized by the Hellenic Association of Photovoltaic Companies (HELAPCO).

The Green Tank said that in absolute terms they have increased from 308 GWh in the first four months of the year to 515 GWh through July. Despite the rise of demand in the summer season, 85 GWh still had to be curtailed in June and July.

It creates a problem not just for renewable energy producers, but also for consumers, who need every cheap electron coming from wind and solar farms to reduce their costs.

Photovoltaics would face 20% curtailments without batteries

Professor Pantelis Biskas from the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki (AUTH) estimates that by 2030 curtailments will affect 15% to 16% of wind power capacity and 20% of photovoltaics.

Revised NECP to set storage goal

The obvious solution is energy storage and the revised NECP is expected to provide visibility for more investments. Biskas said storage must reach 7 GW to 8 GW by 2030 to reduce curtailments to just 2% to 4% and keep energy costs low for consumers. The system requires both batteries and pumped storage hydropower plants.

The exact goal for storage in the final NECP is not yet known. The plan is expected to be submitted for public consultation within the next few weeks by the Ministry of Environment and Energy.

It should be added that Greece has already moved forward with its first 1,000 MW of battery storage systems. So far two auctions have taken place successfully and the first projects are expected to be completed in 2025.

The ministry is still preparing Greece’s third subsidy auction for standalone batteries. The deadline for submissions should apparently be set for early September. Facilities with a four-hour duration can qualify, while the requirement was two hours in the first two rounds. The quota would be 300 MW.

https://www.evwind.es/2024/07/27/curtai ... cuts/99932